From Marketing Expert to AI Visionary: Robyn “Jam” Anderson on the Future of Work

Danny – Enginehire (00:00)
Hi, Jam. Thanks so much for joining us on the How to Build and Care Agency podcast. I forgot the name of the podcast for a second. Thanks so much for joining us.

Robyn Anderson (00:09)
Thank you for having me, Danny. And yeah, great start. And thanks for retelling me the name of the podcast. It’s great.

Danny – Enginehire (00:16)
Yes,

yes, of course. I saw you at the APNA Conference, the Association of Premier Nanny Agencies, and you were a whirlwind of success. I knew I had to go to your workshop and your big other workshop because I knew everybody would be buzzing about AI, and I was not wrong. They were. Everybody started coming up to me telling me we got to do some stuff, and I was like, I know.

Tell us a little bit about how you got to where you are with doing all of this with AI.

Robyn Anderson (00:43)
Yeah, yeah, I know it’s great to meet you there and I love that conference. It’s so fun to meet all of the people in that industry and everyone’s so friendly. So I always love going to APNA and INA and those types of conferences. Well, how far back should I go? I guess what matters here is I started an e-commerce agency back in 2009 and

I was selling websites and we built pretty big e-commerce websites. So back when it was harder to build websites, it was actually even harder to do back end e-commerce. So data shipping, it was a pretty technical situation at that time. So I was a co-founder of this company for five years. We became a

partner of a company called Magento, which is really a fun story because I think everything is about who you know and putting yourself out there. And in this case, back then, I put myself out there, met somebody who was building this Magento ecosystem, and they gave us a shot to become a partner. Well, that came with…

you know, hitching our wagon and a lot of success. So we grew the agency from like three people to 22 people. And it was just a whirlwind of an education for me because I was also like 25 at the time. And, uh, yeah, so it was just real experience learning about web development, learning about user interface design. And then I added services like digital marketing and SEO. Um,

So that was kind of where I got all of my real life education for all of that type of agency type stuff. I decided to have children and get married and not work a million hours a week. So I pivoted and sold my part of the agency and then took a little time off. And then I ended up joining other agencies to help them grow.

And that was a really fun time to learn more about video production and all sorts of other things that agencies do. so yeah, that was kind of like where I learned everything. And then I decided I wanted to do my own thing again, but this time completely on my own. And so in 2022, I started building out like a sales program and I was really excited to teach women specifically at the time.

how to do sales and tech. And right when I was about ready to roll out my training and everything I was doing, OpenAI released ChatGPT to the public. And I was like, okay, this is going to change everything that I’m doing. So I stopped and took a pivot and decided that I wanted to teach people AI as it came out. But really it’s more about sales and marketing.

powered by AI. So that’s how I got here.

Danny – Enginehire (03:40)
Yeah.

That’s an amazing story. you, it actually is very organic for the way that you kind of came here because you’re, it’s not just a background in AI and all of that. It’s how AI can be used and leveraged for all of the things that people in business meet.

Robyn Anderson (03:56)
Yeah, exactly. And I think that’s where I’m seeing a lot of success right now because well, just, you know, the past three years with jam AI, I didn’t know what I was selling or what I was doing when I first started because there was, you know, this big hole of things I had to learn and understand how to communicate them. So now I have club jam, which is my on-demand training and community.

And it’s this really fun place where people can go and learn things on their own. And then every week we all come together and learn something together. so that’s been really fun, but it also was like, do I offer website services? Do I offer SEO, AI SEO now? Do I do consulting? So that’s been kind of evolving over the past three years as well. And pretty much settled on consulting kind of one-on-one training.

or accelerators and then Club Jam seems to be what I personally have capacity for it at this point. But it’s hard to not like branch out and do other things with every new tool that comes out. see so much opportunity.

Danny – Enginehire (05:02)
Yeah, and it’s a lot of fun when you’re helping people. You just start seeing like, I could help you there and there and there too. I’m truly, I’m really glad that you landed on, at least for now, AI with everybody because there’s so much to know about it. And I feel like I don’t know much about it. And then I speak to other people and I’m like, wow, I’m light years ahead. And I feel like I know nothing.

Robyn Anderson (05:06)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Danny – Enginehire (05:29)
Um,

where should people are like, what is AI really? What is it?

Robyn Anderson (05:34)
Yeah,

that’s a great question. So I like to answer this in a way that makes it easy to understand. So AI is when you are working with a computer, but you’re not giving it instructions. You’re actually having a conversation with it. And there’s different types of AI as well. So the type of AI that we’re doing and that you and I are doing and most people listening to this,

is working with LLMs. So those are large language models. And that’s like chat GPT, Claude, Gemini. Those are the types of models that we’re working with. And basically, they’re trained on the internet of things. And they’re trained on pre-trained transformers inside the systems. So actually, the more that we work with them, the more that they learn.

And that’s why you’ll see ChatGPT specifically will have different versions come out. We had ChatGPT 1, 2, 3, and now we’re on 5. And now there’s three different types of 5. And that’s because all those different models have been trained a little bit differently and on more information. So really, I like to just think of it as it’s chatting with a computer that can

really think and provide answers to you rather than you telling it what to do. Does that help?

Danny – Enginehire (06:57)
And all of the

info, no, totally. This is great. And so like all of the information that it has, it’s like pulled from the internet, things like Reddit and probably websites and probably like Wikipedia. Like, I don’t know, but like I’m guessing that it took all of this information in. Cause what I did with it very recently is I took an image and I said, Hey, make this image look, you know,

Robyn Anderson (07:15)
Yeah.

Danny – Enginehire (07:25)
sleek and it just you know spit out something else which was very sleek but i’m like where did it get how what is you know where it thought sleek what is it you know how did it come up with like sleek you mean this

Robyn Anderson (07:38)
Well, and that’s a good point to talk about what you were doing is prompting, right? And prompting is how you interact with an LLM. And so you said, make it sleek. So it went and it said, OK, everything I’ve been trained on on the internet, this is what sleek means to me. And then it reinterpreted your picture and added sleek to it. So that was your prompt. And one of the things that we talk about a lot

And that I train on both in groups and workshops and everywhere is prompting. Cause it’s so important on how you ask questions to these LLMs. So actually just yesterday we had a training about prompting and it was really interesting just to see how different people have been working with these LLMs and you know, some of the responses that they’re getting. And I find the people who come to me and they’re like,

Jam AI sucks, I hate it. Like it doesn’t work. Okay, well what are you asking it to do and how are you asking it to do that? Because chances are if you give it a role, which is one of the tips we like to do. So you could say act as, you know, X, Y, Z, what’s the role. So for an example would be act as a content creator for engine hire. And then you’d give it the thing to do. So.

That way it knows its role, it knows what it’s supposed to do for an output, rather than you just saying, write a blog on domestic staffing in Louisiana. Like it doesn’t have context for why it’s doing that. It will still do it, but it probably won’t be as good as if you have a really great prompt behind it.

Danny – Enginehire (09:16)
One of the things that I have done with prompting myself, and sorry because a lot of this is gonna be based on what I know and see. Thank you, okay great. Is that I’ll ask it for like, I’m trying to do this. What should my prompt be? And then I’ll spit out some stuff and I’ll go, oh okay, like that’s pretty good. And I’ll like keep things. Is that like a good like 101 thing to do? Or like where am I at that?

Robyn Anderson (09:24)
I love that. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And you know, it’s fun to do if you just have so much time. Like I know we all have all this extra time to just mess around. yes, that is a good idea to ask it to enhance your prompt. like to also try it in the three different LLMs that I use and ask the, you know, Gemini enhance this prompt chat, ChatGBT, how could I make this prompt better? Like do it to all three of them and then see. ⁓

Danny – Enginehire (09:46)
Hahaha

Robyn Anderson (10:06)
which one fits best when it comes back. So that’s kind of a fun thing to do. And yes, a ⁓ great way to make sure that you’re working with the system. There’s also just so many fun things you could do with prompting. Could I read you a prompt that we did yesterday that was like mind blowing?

Danny – Enginehire (10:23)
That would be a mind-blowing, would be perfect for our podcast and listeners.

Robyn Anderson (10:26)
Okay.

Let me find it really quick. so in club jam, I like to bring in other AI experts, because I don’t know everything and I like to have other people come in and tell us stuff. So hold on. This was a really good one. Okay. So yesterday we had an AI expert named Olga Topchaya and she talked to us specifically about advanced prompting.

And I do this stuff all the time. Like I’m always looking at prompts and this one was really fun. So basically with this prompt, you can create an expert advisory panel for your business. And so the example prompt is I’m going to read the whole thing and then talk through it, but it’s generate a prompt to role play as a mixture of experts for a small business who does blank, whatever your business does.

Each persona needs to be rich and well-defined with concrete goals. The owner has to balance immediate need for revenue versus long-term business growth goals in today’s economy in the United States. I want the five characters. So then she has Sal, the financial analyst, Karen, the marketing strategist, George, the executive coach, Mark, the market analyst, and then expert five is your choice.

So this was really, really fun to try out. I just did a quick one where I said, I really love doing keynote speaking, but I’m having trouble traveling all the time and balancing all my business needs and everything else. What should I do? And each expert weighed in on what they thought I should do from their standpoint of what their expertise was.

And it was so cool. And I loved it.

Danny – Enginehire (12:13)
That’s awesome. Would you, I suppose, recommend that we all give that a try with our businesses?

Robyn Anderson (12:15)
Yeah.

I think so. think it’s a great prompt to try. Yeah. And there’s so many like that that are just fun, but that’s a really good one.

Danny – Enginehire (12:26)
I love that you had mentioned just before you talked about the prompt that you basically like are using several like at once to see like what it comes up with. Cause they’re all trained differently. Like chat ChatGBT has it’s been built by the chat ChatGBT people, the open AI people and Gemini that’s created by the Google people. so like it’s based on it. They know different things. And I also like competing them.

Robyn Anderson (12:39)
Mm-hmm.

Yep.

Danny – Enginehire (12:54)
Seeing like I’ll open up like three at once. So is there like? ones that I supposed to recommend that We should look at like just like a standard ones I feel like everybody talks about ChatGBT and now everybody I feel like also knows about Gemini Is there like a third or fourth one that you should go up? These ones are also things that people should look at

Robyn Anderson (13:13)
Yeah, and I’ll tell you kind of how I use them too, because I feel like they’re all my friends and my coworkers and I go to them for different things. So, ChatGPT is basically my co-founder at this point and ChatGPT, I have the paid version, so I’m able to really customize specific.

agents for my business. So those are called like custom GPTs and they’re trained specifically to do a certain thing in my business. I can also make them for other people so that’s been fun too. So I go to chat GPT for a lot of customized content creation and brainstorming because it knows so much about me at this point. So I really like that tool for that. Gemini I love very much as well.

The Google AI Studio has come a long way since last March specifically, and it’s integrating all of these elements into Gemini. You may have seen Nano Banana come out. So I like to use Gemini for image generation with Nano Banana. I also really like to use Gemini for research because I find that its agent mode is just

Really great. Obviously it has Google at its fingertips. So it comes back with a lot of great research. And then the third one that I would recommend is Claude, which is an LLM built by Anthropic. And the reason I like that one is that, well, there’s a few reasons. It’s a little bit more secure because it’s a private company. So they don’t, they don’t train their LLM on your conversations, but

Unless you opt in to do that, I should say. And then it also has the ability to go into your Google Drive and your Gmail, which I know the other ones do now as well. But the reason I like to have Claude do it is because along with that, you can train it to sound just like you. So that’s what I use to pre-draft emails in my inbox. So when I…

go check my email, I already have drafts written in my inbox and they sound just like me. They don’t look like these long emoji filled AI generated content that we’re seeing.

Danny – Enginehire (15:25)
awesome with like it making it sound like you which I think is what a lot of people want to do I think that that’s like innately something where people go hey I wanted to write this but now I want to sell me is it like how hard was it to train it or to teach it or to use it to the point where you go that actually that sounds pretty much like me like I feel really good about that

Robyn Anderson (15:47)
Yeah, I actually haven’t had to retrain mine in probably a year. So I did it about a year ago. And at the time, all I had to do was find emails that I’ve written that I liked. And I collected probably 50 samples. Sorry if you can hear my dog. Go away. like 50 samples of my writing. And then I uploaded that as a PDF.

Danny – Enginehire (16:06)
you

Robyn Anderson (16:13)
to train as a style.

Danny – Enginehire (16:14)
And that was like it. You were like, yeah. And from there on, you felt pretty good about it.

Robyn Anderson (16:18)
Yeah, yeah, from then on it’s worked pretty well. So, and I will say I prefer brevity in emails and getting to the point. So it’s not that hard to sound like me. So maybe that’s why I haven’t had to retrain it.

Danny – Enginehire (16:37)
But you also have the giant background of all of the time that you’ve spent in your other businesses building up to knowing what a good email and all of that stuff is. I’ve also learned brevity is very important depending on who you’re talking to. Just get to the point.

Robyn Anderson (16:47)
Yeah. Yeah.

⁓ Yeah,

different styles for different roles, If I’m sending a marketing email, it’ll be longer, but sales, it’s gonna be all about my client that I’m talking to and what I heard from them and then, you know, coworkers and partners, keeping it brief. We’re all busy.

Danny – Enginehire (17:11)
Yeah, yeah. Let me just ask you crazy question. How far in the future would it be until you think this podcast could just be AI you and AI me?

Robyn Anderson (17:16)
Mm-hmm.

It could be right now if we wanted. Yeah. It totally could be. There’s a, there’s a tool I was playing with yesterday where it looks like this and you’re, but you’re real coming in, but then you’re talking to somebody who’s not real. So you could technically go to that tool and say, I want to talk to an AI expert who’s, I don’t know, blonde and

Danny – Enginehire (17:24)
No way.

Robyn Anderson (17:46)
you know, has a background in marketing. And then that person, that AI person will pop up.

Danny – Enginehire (17:51)
Do you think, ⁓ like you’ve talked about the prompt, I’m sorry to everyone listening to this because I probably won’t edit this out to say that I just like am a fury of brainstorming all the time. If you ask my wife, I could have like a billion businesses. Most of them would be really bad, but I feel like there’s a few good ones in there. With that, when you were talking about like the marketing and, or like the team of people, that’s like your panel.

Robyn Anderson (17:53)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Danny – Enginehire (18:20)
⁓ would it be an okay idea? I don’t know how to phrase this, but like, I’m thinking about like, put in like, be like, Bill Gates is, ⁓ you know, on my panel and Mark Zuckerberg is on my panel. What would it be able to like, you know, what is this going to be helpful? What is this crazy thing going to do?

Robyn Anderson (18:31)
Yeah.

So.

funny you said that because when I saw that prompt yesterday, I’ve seen it before, but with Bill Gates, I think he’s on it, but it was like Bill Gates, Oprah, Jesus. I don’t know, you could put whoever you want. That’s the really cool part about AI is it’s so custom for you and your experience. So the other thing that I like to do is if there’s an author I like or

podcast celebrity personality that I like, I can go in and say act as or put their names in that prompt. And now all of sudden they’re going to help me with my business, which is a really cool thing to do. Like how many of us could ever get the chance to ask Oprah, you know, what they think we should do in our business or is this a good book to read? You know.

Danny – Enginehire (19:22)
Yeah,

I’ve definitely put in, I’ve read business books that I really enjoy and then on some email copy and I’ve read an email and be like, now how would so and so write this email? And it was like, yeah, it knew those things and I tried to make it sound like them. Putting on my care agency hat, what do you think are the first couple things or maybe just even like, I know AI is big, so like,

Robyn Anderson (19:28)
Mm-hmm.

Danny – Enginehire (19:47)
What is like maybe the first thing I should think about using with?

Robyn Anderson (19:50)
So before you even use AI, it’s really important to figure out your brand strategy. So that’s one of the first things that we do when I bring people into either Club Jam or consulting. So we go through my brand voice training, which is if you have a brand that’s super specific already, that’s great. We still have to learn how to train the AI to sound like you.

⁓ if you don’t have that, and most people don’t because, you know, lot of people just kind of, especially small business owners, they kind of organically develop brand. They may pick out like a name and some logo colors and things like that. But as far as really going deep and saying, what is our why, who is our customer profile and really diving down into.

who you are, what do you sound like, and who are you talking to? That is the number one first thing that I do. And the fun part is, is I have fun, interesting prompts to help you think through all that stuff. So that’s the very first thing, because until you have that nailed down, you don’t want to go create content for anything else. And you reminded me, because one of the prompts that we do,

Danny – Enginehire (20:57)
Amazing.

Robyn Anderson (21:08)
is we assign a little bit of a celebrity style to your brand. So it’s not what Danny’s voice sound like, but if Enginehire was a celebrity that we all know of, and you could mix them up too, like what would Enginehire celebrity voice be? If you could pick any one.

Danny – Enginehire (21:30)
Really? Just pick one out right now? Okay. This is probably a terrible one, but I’m gonna go with Matthew McConaughey.

Robyn Anderson (21:31)
Yeah, what yeah you’ve been there a while.

That’s not a terrible one. That’s a great one. He’s a great marketer. He makes tons of money with marketing. He’s trustworthy. Would you mix it with any others? Would you?

Danny – Enginehire (21:51)
Uh, probably. mean, like now I’m also thinking about like, no, but I love this because like it probably would be like someone like Bill Gates because we’re a technology company. And you know, there’s a, the piece of Matthew McConaughey that I like is that he’s, he feels like you could talk to him. Like anyone I feel like you could be like very approachable. And then Bill Gates is very smart and technical and you just trust him when he’s telling you things about technology. Like implicitly I would be like,

Robyn Anderson (21:54)
I know, I’m putting you on the spot.

Mm-hmm.

Danny – Enginehire (22:18)
Yeah, you know I don’t, even if I felt like I even if I felt like I really knew. So those are my two minutes.

Robyn Anderson (22:23)
Yeah.

Yeah. So one of the exercises we’d go through, it’s called your brand DNA. Like let’s develop your brand DNA. Who are you? How do you sound? So by the time, if we were actually doing this together, by the time we were done, I’d bet you’d have like four, at least four celebrities. And so we would have this whole thing about engine hire and who you are and why you started and what you’re, what are you all about? Right. And then we’d create your voice DNA where it’s like, okay,

Every time we write content for Engine Hire, it’s going to be 60 % Matthew McConaughey, 10 % Bill Gates, I don’t know where I’m at. Let’s see, 30%, 20%. ⁓

no. Gwyneth Paltrow. Gwyneth Paltrow. You need a little soft side in there. Yeah. So that’s really fun to do. that’s where I’d say to start. I know that probably didn’t answer your question because most people want to start with the tools right away, but I think you have to have this strategy first.

Danny – Enginehire (23:03)
you’re doing the math. That’s great. That’s great. Yeah.

No, this is great because we could easily be telling people to go use this tool to put in a prompt, put in this prompt people and give this a go. But really you want to rewind before you do that and actually think about like your company and everything you’re trying to achieve and, and, and frame that, you know, build a really good foundation with that before you add in AI. suppose that that’s like, just like a great idea in the first place of like.

Robyn Anderson (23:28)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Danny – Enginehire (23:49)
you know, a foundation of your company and before you put any tools to like really elevate it.

Robyn Anderson (23:55)
Yeah, well, and we’ll start hearing more about this too, but AI responsibility, you know, there’s there’s an environmental impact of using AI. In fact,

Danny – Enginehire (24:03)
Yes. My

wife tells me about that every day. She tells me every time I put in a prompt that that’s one water bottle.

Robyn Anderson (24:07)
Yeah, no.

It’s true. All of my, I’m doing things you didn’t know you could do with AI on TikTok. And my hater comments are like, that wasn’t worth three bottles of water or whatever. And you know, they’re right. However, there’s, there’s a lot of use in education, but going back to strategy first, there’s so much that we could just burn in AI every day for fun, but like,

If you actually have this strategy, you’re being a little bit more responsible when you go and create content, whether it’s a video or an image or whatever you’re making, whatever, how many water bottles you’re burning a day. If you have strategy, you’ll burn less. So I don’t think you could burn water.

Danny – Enginehire (24:51)
Could you,

yeah, I was gonna say, I have a feeling a lot of people don’t know what that means and I only kind of know what that means. Could you explain it to me?

Robyn Anderson (25:00)
I only kind of know as well. I actually had a whole conversation with chat GPT about it recently. Cause I was like, want to intelligently respond to comments and questions about the environmental impacts of AI. And it has to do with the, like data centers and cooling the machines that keep all of this AI going. Like the long and short of it is just that.

Danny – Enginehire (25:02)
Yeah.

Robyn Anderson (25:27)
But in my chat GPT conversation, was like Netflix burns just as much posting on Instagram. Like AI is just a big use case right now because so many people are using it all the time. but every thing it’s called your digital footprint, like everything you do takes energy. And so I think that’s where the real smart people need to come in and help us save the environment from.

AI and I’m not the one to talk to you about that, but I’m all for it.

Danny – Enginehire (25:58)
Well, this is great. Our conversation is covering a lot of really great things. I think it’s just a good baseline of AI in our world today. I had a really good question, but I’ve lost it. Maybe it was not a really good question, so that’s okay. It’s true. Oh, I think, could you, before we really wind up, could you tell me what you think is on the horizon for AI?

Robyn Anderson (26:04)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

It probably wasn’t great then.

Danny – Enginehire (26:22)
AI. think to myself, I often think what I know about it, because from what I’ve seen, go, ⁓ it’s 10 steps ahead of me. What somebody’s doing something way crazier, kind of like what we talked about of like having a podcast, it could possibly be us too. And it could be right now. That’s people are doing amazing things with it. Where do you see it maybe going?

Robyn Anderson (26:45)
so agents, number one agents, agents are predicted to take over. So instead of websites, people just have these agents and apps. And, I was just at a trade show. saw 4 billion agents will be created in the next three years. So that’s what’s coming. Agent builders are.

popping up left and right and also like these vibe coding platforms are popping up left and right and I think it will probably be the same thing as when we saw all the different browsers come out and you know it ended up with like Safari and Google.

I think this will be the same thing in the case of apps and agents. And Google’s doing an amazing job staying up to date. Every time I log into Google cloud, there’s something new. They just came out with a new vibe coding app called Firebase for mobile app development. They have Vertex AI for agent creation. We all saw on dev day last week, OpenAI came out with their agent builder.

And have things like N8N and make.com where people like us could go and make agents without code. So it’s really just thinking of what’s coming next, but also like the strategy behind it still is going to be king. like, I’ve had people say, here’s all my money, build me an agent for this. And I’ll actually talk them out of it because it doesn’t make sense. Like we have to think through what are these agents doing?

And is that the best choice for your business? Now, call center agents are great for, you know, dentists and places where you call and you’re expecting to be put on hold. But I don’t know about you when I answer the phone and I hear the like beep and then a robot. I used to hang up, but now I say, who made you? What are you doing? just to kind of learn, but, ⁓ nobody’s like really as consumers.

Danny – Enginehire (28:33)
Thank

Robyn Anderson (28:36)
having great conversations with AI calls that I know of. I mean, have you? Do you answer those? Do you talk to them?

Danny – Enginehire (28:44)
No, I see also a lot of people, you know, use using engine hire using our chat. And a lot of them, while I can see AI is helping them solve problems, a lot of them are, you know, just being like human transfer and having all that stuff in and, you know, and our team is great and they answer all of that stuff. And it’s great that AI is there to kind of take some of the burden off of them. So everyone can get

Robyn Anderson (29:00)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Danny – Enginehire (29:10)
Really great, high, good quality support. That’s my pitch for engine higher support team. Good job, team. ⁓ But yeah, I am with you. Yeah, it’s not great.

Robyn Anderson (29:15)
Nice job, engine.

Yeah. So things like that, but

like what are, what are agents good at? I mean, there’s a lot of things that they could take off your plate from a business owner perspective. ⁓ a lot of marketing tasks and those are only getting better by the day. You may have seen, ⁓ Sora two was released last week, which is open AI is incredibly real video that, ⁓ you could put yourself in and.

I don’t know. I have mixed feelings about that. It’s coming, so we have to deal with it. I’m a little worried about what that looks like. What if somebody can take my face or your face and, you know, put a voice in that’s similar to ours and then say something that we don’t believe or, I don’t know. I think there’s a lot of room for like criminal activity with that. And I’m a little worried about what that looks like. Not to scare everybody, but it’s a thing.

Danny – Enginehire (30:14)
Wow, I’m gonna sleep. Well, okay, to balance that out, the first thing I’m thinking of, it’s gonna be really easy for me to write my favorite Hollywood love story movie and then put myself in it. Probably not myself, I’d probably cast a better AI actor. But, you know, do all of that with just the tools in my house with my laptop right in front of me. just, and crush it.

Robyn Anderson (30:17)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

Yeah.

It’s crazy. Yeah.

Do you know that fighter named Jake Paul?

Danny – Enginehire (30:43)
No.

Robyn Anderson (30:43)
⁓ he had like a Netflix series, but he for some reason volunteered his face to anyone. So anyone can make videos of him. So now people have used this, like he’s a big manly guy. And now there’s all these videos of him wearing like dresses, putting makeup on and it looks just like him. You cannot tell it’s not him. So it’s kind of an interesting social experiment going on and

to be continued on that, because it just started.

Danny – Enginehire (31:09)
Yes, that’s amazing. I will suggest to everybody, since they’re listening already, to listen to Plankton from SpongeBob SquarePants, sing some Taylor Swift songs. Very fun for me. In fact, to me, my favorite versions of some of these songs. So, I like them. It’s fun. ⁓ Could you tell us, before we round out, could you just tell us a little bit about your program and how people can learn more about you and how to work with you,

Robyn Anderson (31:23)
I’ll have to do that, that sounds great. Yeah.

Yeah, totally. I am all about people learning. So you can go to my website. It’s jamout.ai. And I have a whole section of freebies there that you could download with prompts. And I have a free five-day course as well. And then if you wanted to join Club Jam, it’s super easy to do. You can join monthly or get the annual. And it’s really fun. We meet every week and we are.

learning things like crazy and bringing in experts here and there. yeah, check it out. And if it seems like a good fit, sign up and shoot me an email. It’s jam at jamout.ai if you have any questions.

Danny – Enginehire (32:14)
Thank you, Jam. Thank you so much for sharing so much, really giving us a really great baseline of AI. And I know you can go much further. So thanks for sharing your time with us and everybody, think. It’s very simple. You got to reach out and learn more straight from the source.

Robyn Anderson (32:28)
Well, thank you for having me, Danny, and everyone I talked to so far is a big fan of Engine Hire. And I’m excited to work more with you guys and learn more about you because you have a lot of fans.

Danny – Enginehire (32:40)
⁓ thank you. We’re doing some fun AI stuff. I’ll have to get your take on it and see what we can do. Cool. All right. Well, thanks so much,

Robyn Anderson (32:46)
yeah, I can’t wait.

All right, bye,

have a good one.